WRX VS Lotus = A very BAD DAY!

25. nov.. 2020
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This was an unexpected, and expensive day out for everyone involved...
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    Mighty Car ModsMighty Car Mods3 måneder siden
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      Dewald PretoriusDewald Pretorius2 måneder siden
    • Ah, I feel so sad for people who buy mid engine cars and dont get taught that the braking points and acceleration points as well as the driving line around a race track differ alot from most other cars and then think they bought shit cars because they dont behave like the cars they are used to.

      Stephan FourieStephan Fourie3 måneder siden
    • Moog. Just watching you corner. You need better front tyres and a little softer front damper.

      marvin martinmarvin martin3 måneder siden
    • What tyres are you using? This generation of Elise/Exige need quite soft tyres otherwise it will be twitchy. It can be hard to find the right ones as there aren't many choices which actually work well on them. Yokohama AD07/AD08 were good but they don't make them anymore. There should also be absolutely no play in the steering at all, if there is then something is wrong. I'd advise fitting stronger toe links as well as OEM ones are known to snap under very high stress once they get old (if they haven't already been done, it's likely they have, check the condition of them too). Infact that should be the first mod as people have died as a result of those going!

      Mister NobodyMister Nobody3 måneder siden
  • hey gents when's the rebuild time happing for the wrx gc8 sti? happy to start following the next stages/plains for it..

    TURBZ_20B ROTARYTURBZ_20B ROTARY3 dager siden
  • So was the Lotus a swaybar issue too? Maybe they were just too stiff so you couldn't corner properly? Being too high for the suspension is a problem obviously too.

    corvanphoenixcorvanphoenix11 dager siden
  • Where's the episode with Marty fixing his STI?

    Steven SiwinskiSteven Siwinski11 dager siden
  • Correct me if im wrong but you were running a torbo back exhaust with the stock tune? Isnt that a garunteed recipe for engine problems?

    Chris MathyChris Mathy14 dager siden
  • A Lotus can be frustrating to approach. There's so much less margin of error at the limit than with other cars. But once you figure it out, it gets extremely satisfying and you can chop cars that are much more expensive and 'faster'. About the oversteer, I would sart by checking if the shocks are still good and getting some stickier tyres. I had the same Yokohama Advans as Moog on mine and I could get it to powerslide with only 120hp. I was generally underwhelmed with that tyre. And when the left rear shock died it got a lot worse, of course.

    YAMAURIXT500YAMAURIXT50020 dager siden
    • I agree with you and welcome to my channel about cars

      Covert GarageCovert Garage15 dager siden
  • First mod: baffled oil pan

    baby yoda partakebaby yoda partakeMåned siden
  • So that EVO 9 was all just a dream?

    baby yoda partakebaby yoda partakeMåned siden
  • Living that lotus lifestyle

    baby yoda partakebaby yoda partakeMåned siden
  • Mid engine rear wheel drive car characteristics go against what your brain thinks, had an MR2 turbo that scared the shit out of me a good few times lifting of mid corner. Learned to keep my foot on the accelerator even when it starts to slide. Pendulum effect.

    Insane GymRatInsane GymRatMåned siden
  • woow that supercharger whine sounds amazing. Never realized superchargers sound so good

    Zohaib AsifZohaib AsifMåned siden
  • Bad Driver. Lotus is a Car for good Driver 😉

    saugerspeedstersaugerspeedsterMåned siden
  • Moog is such a amateur driver cringe asf

    KB FNKB FN2 måneder siden
  • Subaru reliability 😞

    Behraad AriayeBehraad Ariaye2 måneder siden
  • Moog you have really great listening skills , I could never 😂

    L HerreraL Herrera2 måneder siden
  • Is that Rodney?!?! 😂😂😂 Poor marty

    Jonathan ConwayJonathan Conway2 måneder siden
  • Did you get lift-off oversteer with the BRZ?

    Koito robKoito rob2 måneder siden
  • It's not supercar...

    Koito robKoito rob2 måneder siden
  • Stroker kit

    tommy riordantommy riordan2 måneder siden
  • sell wrx sti and buy evo 6

    Nik BulanovNik Bulanov2 måneder siden
  • their face show how much they spend on it, how much they love their car. this is heartbroken moment..

    fariz ascarizfariz ascariz2 måneder siden
  • *Killer B oil pickup and windage tray* They save EJs

    Rome1017Rome10172 måneder siden
  • that lotus is pretty loose :D

    D CD C2 måneder siden
  • As a Subaru technician I know that ticking noise all to well. Time to pull it and make it stronger and faster.

    Ray WolfwinskiRay Wolfwinski2 måneder siden
  • Lmaoooooooo ... Through back days. Pizza 🍕

    Brandyn HernandezBrandyn Hernandez2 måneder siden
  • Sounds like you need bigger ends lol. Hope you got it early and its an easy fix

    Just Harry JohnsonJust Harry Johnson2 måneder siden
  • Full Sti swap?

  • Needs moar Yoda

    Kenneth LarsenKenneth Larsen2 måneder siden
  • short wheelbases for very tight grip tracks.. audi s3 hatch rally grip racers.. u can adjust rear down force on lotus to increase grip

    MoVieZafterMidNiGhTMoVieZafterMidNiGhT2 måneder siden
  • Moog nearly cleaned up the field. Great camerawork and great comments on those cars too guys.

    Strongboy 72Strongboy 722 måneder siden
  • Not the Subaru!!! Sorry Marty. Moog just needs to ride along with a more experienced driver.

    toddms41toddms412 måneder siden
  • Marty: Heart break due to bearing failure Viewers: Excited for engine rebuild content? Me: Hopefully more Evo content!!

    alexobviouslyalexobviously2 måneder siden
  • F for Subaru

    Jesse Valentine PortzJesse Valentine Portz2 måneder siden
  • Fix the Scooby.

    Andrew LofthouseAndrew Lofthouse2 måneder siden
  • I watched u guys from the beginning and I’ve never seen 2 grown ups being that much emotional, u guys are true car guys my heart and respect goes out to you

    Myster E46Myster E462 måneder siden
  • Build the subi, they are not really good until the bottom end is line honed, forged rods and crank, big studs, sleeved cylinders with solid deck insert. Once it's good for 800hp it will last forever at 450.

    Kurt SumthinorotherKurt Sumthinorother2 måneder siden
  • Stock bottom end Subis have one thing in common. It's not if it will blow up, it's when.

    Kurt SumthinorotherKurt Sumthinorother2 måneder siden
  • Lot of body roll for a track. Maybe bigger sway bars.

    Kurt SumthinorotherKurt Sumthinorother2 måneder siden
  • The disappointment on both their faces when the cylinder left the chat, broke my heart💔

    Hasziel GonzalezHasziel Gonzalez2 måneder siden
  • Harness without hans device is not really the best idea out there.

    Sam PSam P2 måneder siden
  • this has to be my favorite NOworld channel!..

    Armani GtrArmani Gtr2 måneder siden
  • Shane goes to TAFE - bring on the Frenzal

    A.L.A.L.2 måneder siden
  • The lotus may be Better over all but its also 100 times more sensitive to wheel and alignment setup. you'll get it right and you will be surprised how much faster you are! Well done boys

  • Whoah, this snuck into my playlist. Didnt even see the alert.

    Iron ReedIron Reed2 måneder siden
  • I am thinking the the Subaru could do with the best engine you can get..... an EJ20 Billet Block www.google.com/search?q=ej20+billet+block&oq=ej&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i57j0i67j69i60l2.3795j0j7&client=ms-android-samsung-gn-rev1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

    Matthew SargentMatthew Sargent2 måneder siden
  • That intro. 🤣

    flying munk89flying munk892 måneder siden
  • driver mods. Driver mods. Driver mods.

    god084god0842 måneder siden
  • Hey guys whats the app you are using to get lap times

    Paul SinniPaul Sinni2 måneder siden
  • FBI Open up (c) Subaru

    im'Rockim'Rock2 måneder siden
  • Spin caused by lift off oversteer. I think you need some instruction if this is your first RWD mid engine car

    ACAC2 måneder siden
  • Would definitely like to see the fix / rebuild 👍🏻

    Robin ERobin E2 måneder siden
  • Nothing that a nu crankshaft kit and set of rods won't fix.................

    pete dpete d2 måneder siden
  • Moog spinning in that track freaking scared me, glad that he only spun out ! And Marty's face when the sti started knocking just broke me. I had the same exact expression when I first started hearing a sound in my subie, except that Marty did hold back on those tears !

    Mr. MolinaMr. Molina2 måneder siden
  • Google "lift-off" oversteer ;-) Hint: some cars are oversteering on lift-off so that you need to keep accelerating in corner (lightly) move weight on to rear wheels to get traction...

    Piotr KopczyńskiPiotr Kopczyński2 måneder siden
  • seems to be expensive to go to the track...

    Janne KokkoJanne Kokko2 måneder siden
  • You should swap the 2.5 into the STI

    IvelLeCogIvelLeCog2 måneder siden
  • Das ist das Problem mit Boxermotoren. Die erleiden zu schnell einen Defekt. Sehr anfällig obwohl sie sich so toll anhören... 😔

    Chris1312_YTCChris1312_YTC2 måneder siden
  • I feel Martys pain firsthand. I had a v3 JDM STi swapped impreza, drove it like crazy for a year, then finally took it to the track and a couple over-revs (8250rpm fuel cut on those JDM ECUs) did it in. Rebuilt the motor and it did autocross for years afterwards, and then on to a new owner. I love those JDM EJ20s.

    EliotEliot2 måneder siden
  • This just proves that adding more power is not the answer. It's the complete package that needs to improve handling and performance. You need a stability analysis otherwise upgrade to an Exige S. They are awesome and can handle the increased power. Good luck mate. Glad you are ok.

    Jim SmithJim Smith2 måneder siden
  • The reason why you span out was because you were had a mid rear engine car so if you press the brakes to hard you spin out

    Julie GoodwinJulie Goodwin2 måneder siden
  • Garmin is ok, Rand McNally is better. Currently have a Garmin in my truck and it likes to tell me to take roads that don't exist. I also find them to not be as user friendly as the Rands but that is likely in large part subjective. Edit: since im sure people will assume its because of missing updates, no its not. It gets updated and it has roads marked across pastures and through forests that if they ever were a road its been decades. Yes I've had Rand GPS and Google maps do similar things, but not nearly at the same frequency.

    Jay DunbarJay Dunbar2 måneder siden
  • Sound just like my Miata when cold, dont worry its normal

    PepegaPepega3 måneder siden
  • new challange, find the cheapest possible used car to chop this :) my bet is any VW 1.9 TDI 96kw chiped :)

    Filip MašekFilip Mašek3 måneder siden
  • So I took away from that "You put the cheese in the middle of the doughnut" ? :P

    Jimbo DeeJimbo Dee3 måneder siden
  • Marty u did ur best. Moog u should take more class on real driving

    HD KHD K3 måneder siden
  • 'Ringland' Subaru #102,012

    Hard_Boiled85Hard_Boiled853 måneder siden
  • im surprised they havnt had an nsx yet.

    Rory NestaRory Nesta3 måneder siden
  • I’ve seen too many subies die. Terrible engines

    juliosachumpjuliosachump3 måneder siden
  • Why don't U get some driver training?

    Peter SmithPeter Smith3 måneder siden
  • i like them but i don't. Not a fan how they can be super funky in the corners at high speed, super easy to spin out, but i also never had a lotus guy teach me how to drive it.. lol

    InSanityPurgeXInSanityPurgeX3 måneder siden
  • Moog had a Butt Pucker Moment lol...

    Stubby PickleStubby Pickle3 måneder siden
  • In light of the latest two videos this video should be called; Useless Lotus mechanics (twice) don’t pick up that literally “everything was way off on the setup, including suspension and brakes” before letting Moog go out and nearly get killed on the track.

    xpictos777 xxpictos777 x3 måneder siden
  • Santa Cruz shirt spotted on Moog

    Kurt RingerKurt Ringer3 måneder siden
  • Always enjoy your videos chaps cheer me up because unfortunately in the UK we've got bastards attacking our cars for catalytic converters and stolen mine out of my Civic Type R. Glad you were not hit on that spin it could have been bad when you get to know the limits of the car on the set up it will be awesome🤣👍

    Android 890Android 8903 måneder siden
  • The moment he heard that knock... I'm so sorry for u marty 😥 but you fix it amd make it even stronger i know it ❤️ the low 1:50s f' it the high 1:40s are calling rexxy

    Dobstair _BMWDobstair _BMW3 måneder siden
  • Forged Rebuild!

    Jack WaltonJack Walton3 måneder siden
  • aw marty my heart sank I'm sorry buddy

    DzynDzyn3 måneder siden
  • Check the anti roll bar bushings with that lotus, like put it on a lift and pull on them and see if their loose or if they've disintegrated, as that back end should not be coming around like its a flat 12 Ferrari testarossa or a similar midengined V12 grand tourer, as that things going out like a guy with a ferrari who's laying on the throttle way too much and has no grip.

    Kavinsky SmithKavinsky Smith3 måneder siden
  • Loves the shirt "Shane"

    Shane HricShane Hric3 måneder siden
  • Sir your gonna have to learn how to drive a rear engined car! get one the lotus guys to teach you how. If you lift under load at speed, you lose!

    Fryman KikoManFryman KikoMan3 måneder siden
  • Moog: Tighten the nut behind the wheel. By that I mean get some wheel time with an instructor, and get more seat time with the Lotus in general. If setup is in question and the rear end is coming around too easily, the rear is set up too hard - sway bar is too big, springs and dampers are too stiff, not enough static negative camber. I had a 2006 WRX wagon previously, I had put a lot of time and effort into, I had it for 12 years and many many upgrades. I knew that car inside and out when I sold it. I've had my IS350 Fsport (RWD) about a year and ~6,000 covid miles at this point, I still don't have a complete feel for it, I also haven't been able to push it much yet, but it's limits are much higher than I've driven it so far. I'll get there eventually, but I need more seat time, especially solo seat time (typically have the wife or kids in tow so I don't drive aggressively with them in the car). The Lexus is "stock" for now and I hope to keep it that way as long as possible, I have a project car I have been neglecting so the goal is to turn my eyes and wrenches to that as I just daily the Lexus. Related, a Lotus Exige of this era is my attainable dream car, so I do have a vested interest in it being on the channel more. EDIT: Marty - same to you, get some wheel time with an instructor, I don't think you've reached peak in the current setup.

    Jason YoungJason Young3 måneder siden
  • re Lotus: don't waste you money throwing parts at it, its mid engine and needs a new approach to pedalling, get some coaching, learn to drive it and stick the OEM geo back on it, way better VFM than another 20bhp.

    Ricky BobbyRicky Bobby3 måneder siden
  • get a celica zzt231 2zzge motor :]

    Samuel KaySamuel Kay3 måneder siden
  • That sucks so bad it was going good. Iv done 2 rebuilds and one swap on my ej22 already and low and behold now I need a trans. But got to love the subie, there an amazing driving experience.

    Steven MartinezSteven Martinez3 måneder siden
  • I hope we get to see a video of the engine rebuild!

    Kyle MorrisKyle Morris3 måneder siden
  • Ya need REVS sir. redline that little bastard if you have to only way your catching the brz.

    NeutronicalGamingNeutronicalGaming3 måneder siden
  • Lotus: short wheel base RWD. They are twitchy WRX: baffle sump Marty

    Leon DeSilvaLeon DeSilva3 måneder siden
  • damn i know that feeling, mid engine is a totally different monster on track compared to front engine, behaves so differently... well that and probably the 10 year old tires dont help either

    Richard GollenRichard Gollen3 måneder siden
  • That lotus seems like shes got alot more in her. Subaru on other hamd haha how unusual hahah

    Sean EdwardsSean Edwards3 måneder siden
  • Do you guys have a Tow Truck on speed dial for track days? 😂 😭

    sparky1306sparky13063 måneder siden
  • EZ6 or 2.5 for the WRX?

    TheLiquidKnightTheLiquidKnight3 måneder siden
  • i bet they both have more seconds to save in those cars, the lines were poor and not seeing the turns properly. They need to hire a track instructor

    Mike MorozovMike Morozov3 måneder siden
  • blown subie? NO WAY!

    Gerrick SteveGerrick Steve3 måneder siden
  • What ever happened to Miss Daisy's engine?

    Robert StevensRobert Stevens3 måneder siden
  • You haven't owned a Subaru till you have heard a big end knocking! Brought back memories of the STI IV Type R, also had a no.3 go at the track.

    John BrinkmanJohn Brinkman3 måneder siden
  • tires tires tires and suspension!! I'm sorry moog i know you expected more out of that car but, BUT you will get her there!! keep pushing it! MCM 4 LIFE!! lol been with yall from the start KEEP IT UP YALL!!!

  • You need to get an Oil Accumulator, Accusump or similar and a proper baffled sump before trying any High G sustained cornering. It's cheap insurance and way cheaper than rebuilding or purchasing a new crate engine.

    Charlie WolfCharlie Wolf3 måneder siden
  • Mid Engine and rear are very different from Front engine, growing up going to PCA events my pops only spun out a few times while I was with him in the 911 but it is an on/off on balance, the moment you lose it, with Rear and Mid the car is gonna go an no amount of correction is gonna help because the weight is all aft of you. But glad you are safe and the car is ok, but that spin was you at your limit not the car, like you said you have to get better acclimated with the car and you two will do awesome things amigo.

    Carlos RiveraCarlos Rivera3 måneder siden
  • top

    alkatraz nomadovalkatraz nomadov3 måneder siden
  • One way to view Marty's STi 'bad day' thing is: Shouldn't the ECU guard against happenings like these in any way it can? A wrong shift (3 instead of 5) means a power cut, etc?

    udovdhudovdh3 måneder siden